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Updated Feb 20, 2012 - 10:16 am

The things Presidents say

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Listen to Dave Ross Commentary: The things Presidents say

Today we remember our two most famous presidents, Washington and Lincoln, who are in fact still with us through their most famous quotations.

lincolnAbraham Lincoln:

"You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich."

Or this famous one:

"You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

George Washington:

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force…a troublesome servant and a fearful master."

All these are memorable quotes, and all with one thing in common…Washington and Lincoln never said them. They may have THOUGHT them, but there's no record of it.

That Washington quote - is supposed to be in his Farewell Address, but it's not.

Lincoln's quote about not helping the poor by destroying the rich was actually in a pamphlet of sayings written by a preacher long after Lincoln's death. And the one about not fooling all of the people all of the time - is based on a recollection of a Lincoln speech published 54 years later.

Of course the Gospels were written long after Jesus, and entire religions are founded on that…so maybe we shouldn't doubt.

And heck, today, even with everything politicians say scrupulously YouTubed, we still can't always agree on what they said - and if we can't agree on what living people said a week ago, how can we expect to agree on what dead people said 200 years ago?

As Yogi Berra famously said, "I never said most of the things I said."

Or did he?

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  • Moondoggie wrote...
    Pres. Obama said
    February 20, 2012 9:26 am
    If we spend 800 billion plus interest of our grandchildren’s money, he can keep unemployment under 8%
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Moondoggie
    February 20, 2012 12:27 pm
    FYI,every US taxpayer is paying off the debt of past grandparents.A lot of the things in place to make our lives more enjoyable or to allow business to transport product was built with borrowed money.Think of it this way,it like your parents left you a home to live in that was not yet paid off they added some improvements to it since their parents lived in it before them and then you do some things also because the sewer system backed up and some tree's fell over and the power went out,you can't pay for it so your kids get left the house and the bills that go with it.
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  • Pete in Seattle wrote...
    Presidents Day
    February 20, 2012 10:31 am
    How appropriate is it that the most common celebration of the day is the passing of portraits of dead presidents over retail counters. But things have changed - Jacksons are preferred over Washingtons and Lincolns, Grants don't get much respect, Jeffersons get NO respect, and perhaps the best man who never was president gets top billing, at least as far as circulation goes.
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  • Bill Law wrote...
    According to "BrainyQuote", Washington said:
    February 20, 2012 10:46 am
    "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." If he didn't say it, then it is misattributed, but still painfully true.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Billy Boy
    February 20, 2012 12:31 pm
    Actually what Washington said was about a local restaurant in Valley Forge owned by Betsy Ross,one of his subordinates asked if Betsy Ross's restaurant was any good and Washington replied "No one goes there anymore,its too crowded"
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  • Bill Law wrote...
    OK, I looked it up. Apparently Dave is right
    February 20, 2012 11:01 am
    There appears to be no evidence Washington said those words. But he was clear in his distrust of government and what it may become in the hands of those not to be trusted. My personal favorite presidential quote: I---Did---Not---Have ---Sex----With---That---Woman.
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  • TheSymbolForBoron wrote...
    My Favorite Quote(s) from an idiot son.
    February 20, 2012 11:42 am
    So when the next Republican comes asking for your vote -- 1. Remember and, 2. Say NO.

    "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." -Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

    "I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." --at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001

    "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

    "The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007

    "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." --discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson

    "I think I was unprepared for war." –on the biggest regret of his presidency, ABC News interview, Dec. 1, 2008

    "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." --Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

    "Do you have blacks, too?" --to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

    "This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." --as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002

    "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." --on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina

    "They misunderestimated me." --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

    "This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base." --at the 2000 Al Smith dinner

    "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." --LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

    "People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

    "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." --State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false

    "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001

    "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

    "So what?" –President Bush, responding to a an ABC News correspondent who pointed out that Al Qaeda wasn't a threat in Iraq until after the U.S. invaded, Dec. 14, 2008

    "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." --speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003

    "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" --joking about his administration's failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004

    "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." --Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008

    "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" --Florence, South Carolina, Jan. 11, 2000

    "I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense." --Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006

    "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." --Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

    "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." --Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

    "You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

    "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." --to FEMA director Michael Brown, who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his handling of the Hurricane Katrina debacle, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005

    "My answer is bring them on." --on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

    It is white. -- Bush's reply when asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like

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  • XKOP wrote...
    Symbol
    February 20, 2012 11:58 am
    Anybody who has the time to post like this, needs to seriously get a life. I could make just as many examples of stupid stuff that Obumble has said, but I have better things to do.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    XKOP
    February 20, 2012 12:33 pm
    Sure you do
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  • XKOP wrote...
    mess
    February 21, 2012 4:51 am
    Saying that you are pathetic would be a compliment.
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  • sportsguru wrote...
    TheSymbolForBoron
    February 20, 2012 3:33 pm
    Whoooaaaaaa Nellie, you hit a home run with that list, all the others trying to keep pace are running using a walker and tennis balls. Great list.
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  • Bill Law wrote...
    And then there are these, from the idiot little boy who occupies the office where a President should be
    February 20, 2012 12:22 pm
    "I've now been in 57 states. I think one left to go." "On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes, and I see many of them in the audience here today". What they'll say is, 'Well, it costs too much money,' but you know what? It would cost about--- It it would cost about the same as what we would spend. Over the course of 10 years it would cost what it would costs us. (nervous laugh) All right. Okay. We're going to do it. It would cost us about the same as it would cost for about---- hold on one second. I can't hear myself. But I'm glad you're fired up, though. I'm glad." The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." I bowled a 129. It's like - it was like the Special Olympics, or something." "Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma. They end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer. I haven't had much sleep in the last 48 hours. It was interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of I don't know what the term is in Austrian--- wheeling and dealing." "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
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  • Moondoggie wrote...
    mess101
    February 20, 2012 1:00 pm
    Obama is leaving our grandkids a house that is underwater.
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  • Vlastimil wrote...
    " I’ve got two daughters, 9 years old and 6 years old. I’m going to teach them first of all about values and morals but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby"-- Barack Obama
    February 20, 2012 1:56 pm
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  • vashonmatt wrote...
    Today we celebrate all the presidents who were able to accomplish great things before Fox News made that impossible.
    February 20, 2012 2:00 pm
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  • Bill Law wrote...
    Oh My Gawd! The Eeeeeevil Boogie Man Fox
    February 20, 2012 3:19 pm
    Making it impossible for presidents to do great things. What will they stoop to next? ( Er Matt. Been getting into the weed a little too much lately, by any chance? )
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  • vashonmatt wrote...
    Nope, just a "News" network informing millions with lies,
    February 20, 2012 3:29 pm
    and people like you that believe it.
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  • daveismenotyou wrote...
    Example please Matt?
    February 20, 2012 4:21 pm
    What lies?
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    daveismenotyou
    February 20, 2012 5:20 pm
    Leaving out information to a story in order to give the story a twist is LYING. Turn on Fox any time of day (I do) and within a few minutes you will see that or worse.If you don't believe me start Fact Checking them (I do). I'm sure that you could care less that your being LIED to because what they are saying is EXACTLY what YOU want to hear
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  • daveismenotyou wrote...
    I asked for examples
    February 20, 2012 7:40 pm
    Why 1) you don't supply said examples and 2) you are insulting me? I only asked a question.
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  • Phillibuster wrote...
    How about a different picture...
    February 20, 2012 5:05 pm
    same subject, what presidents say. For as long as I can remember from as far back as Nixon, we have had every president tell us we need to reduce our addiction and dependency on froeign oil. And yet the big O, with a stroke of a pen shot down the Keystone pipeline. Now there was a real dictatorial thing to do. Sometimes these idiots in DC need to get rid of the 'R' and 'D' labels and go with the 'A' label and do what is right for America. Vote folks, it is the only way change can happen.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Phillibuster
    February 20, 2012 5:27 pm
    Interesting story about that pipeline that failed to get much coverage. The Dems had a Bill last week that stipulated that the oil to be sent through the Keystone pipeline was to be for the use of the USA and not shipped abroad. The GOPers voted it down. Face it that oil is for the World market thats the way things work and the oil companies will always control the amount on the market at any given time in order to ensure a High profit for themselves. Gingrich talking about the ease of getting $2.50 per gallon gas was the BIGGEST LIE of the YEAR.The GOPers should have laughed him off the stage but they didn't because those fools actually believe $2.50 a gallon gas is possible
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  • daveismenotyou wrote...
    Those evil GOPers
    February 20, 2012 7:52 pm
    that control the senate?
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  • daveismenotyou wrote...
    It was only three years ago where gas
    February 20, 2012 7:54 pm
    was
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  • Vlastimil wrote...
    arguing over what cable news network lies is pointless
    February 20, 2012 5:44 pm
    Cable networks are a ridiculous source for information. Singling out Fox implies that the others are credible, which couldn't be further from the truth. They are good for entertainment value, to see how a fat pile of steamy bull S... is served up and passed off as news.
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